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The system here in Pa for background checks is called PICS.
They also use NICS to do their checks.
A simple assault charge from 34 years ago
(which was expunged) showed up on my record and sent my purchase status into "research"

These morons wanted to know is the simple assault charge was a domestic violence complaint.
I said look at the charge?
I said was not dating the cop who shoved me and I shoved him back and he fell to the ground.

Then I said you were not supposed to even see that since it was expunged?
They said too ,late , we did see it and now you need to prove it was DV.
I said BS, you need to prove it was.

In desperation I called the Neptune NJ court where this happened and believe it or not she found my original arrest card, 34 years old.

She faxed it to PICS and they cleared me Friday the 13th.

Here's the topic I posted at AR15.com Pa forum.


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Guilty till proven Innocent.

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JJ if you had nappy hair,lips that dragged on the ground, and a criminal record, they would have cleared you in a matter of minutes. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


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Originally posted by Hawk45:
JJ if you had nappy hair,lips that dragged on the ground, and a criminal record, they would have cleared you in a matter of minutes. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]


Whatcha takin bout Willis? 30 seconds or less.


Sorry to hear about your mishap.....


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JJ, glad it worked out! BTW... What did you buy me?????!!!!!

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Geez.......Is this where the term Nic-Pic'ing came from?

What a freaking hassle.

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ah... a new pressie for you fav mate from down under..... whaddya buy me mate?

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Sorry to hear of your problems, JJ. Glad to hear it all got resolved.

I remember in the late 90's, when Kentucky got their CCDW Law, I was an instructor, and one of the guys I gave the required 8 hour class and range qualification to called me up a month later, and asked me for some help.

Seems he had been arrested in 1969, when his old lady and he were first married, when the local PD showed up at his doorstep, after momma pasted his ass with a frying pan for being out drinking late with his running partners. The neighbors called in the ensuing ruckus, and even though he was released the next morning, WITH NO FORMAL CHARGES, after Clinton signed that Domestic Violence horsehit into law in the early 90's, because he had BEEN ARRESTED for DV, NOT CHARGED OR CONVICTED, he had to go and get THE ARREST RECORD expunged by a judge.

What a crock of shit. Took him 4 months to finally get his CCDW license. This was 28 years after the fact. Never so much as a speeding ticket in all those years.

Guilty until proven innocent, indeed. [Mad]


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Very true.

I remember a corrections officer at the pen whose ex-wife accused him of molesting their young daughter on a visit.

He was suspended from duty with pay for six months while the accusation was investigated by the local police. Turned out that the ex-wife made up the charge because she figured that if ex-hubby went to prison, she would somehow manage to get all of his property.

When he came back to work, a few jerkoff staff members joked about how he beat the rap. One of them kept it up and paid for it with a busted nose. He punched out the jerkoff in the main corridor when it was full of convicts going to the evening meal. The warden decided that nothing needed to be done about it. The jerkoff had it coming.

And so it goes.

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We have to sign statements twice a year now JJ, Affirming that we dont have any DV convictions, or Child Support nonpayment..EVERY time we Qualify, since the Lautenberg Bill went into effect..One would think that once we made the affirmation the FIRST time, since ANY DV arrest goes into the system here (Print and Photos with copies to NJSP SBI) it wouldnt be all THAT hard to find out?? That's NJ for you. I'd hazard a guess that when they did the expungement they forgot to clear the county database, and it slipped through the cracks there..we Still have that problem in Hudson... we had one complete expungement that took the County SO almost 2 years to clear.
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Bought a NJ non resident fishing license had to sign a fucking paper that I don't owe child support good thing I moved that state is getting more fucked up every day

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